Australia is grappling with too much solar power as renewable growth outpaces grid capacity

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The big picture: Australia has reached an impressive milestone just in time for the warm season as more than four million homes and businesses now have solar power installations. This is a remarkable achievement for a country that had virtually no solar installations just two decades ago. While this would typically be a cause for celebration, the solar boom has also introduced a new challenge: an energy surplus that sometimes exceeds the capacity of the country's electricity systems to handle.

The solar boom has been so extraordinary this spring that South Australia has, at times, met all its electricity needs entirely from solar power, reports by ABC News. Any excess energy has been exported to other states. Nationwide, demand for grid power that cannot be supplied by rooftop solar has plummeted to record lows.

Earlier this month, the Australian Energy Market Operator warned that an "emergency backstop" mechanism might be necessary next spring to maintain grid stability when households export excess solar electricity.

Spring creates ideal conditions for an oversupply of solar power to the grid. Longer, sunnier days boost solar output, but mild temperatures mean air conditioners are rarely used, keeping electricity demand low.

Unfortunately, abundance isn't always beneficial. At times, there's simply too much solar power in Australia's electricity systems to manage effectively, raising serious concerns.

Electricity market designer Jess Hunt, quoted in the report, emphasized that much of this excess solar power will inevitably need to be wasted or "spilled." She likened it to rainfall that overflows and cannot be captured by reservoirs.

The core issue lies in a technical phenomenon known as minimum demand, which refers to the demand for grid power excluding the supply met by rooftop solar. When rooftop solar was negligible, its impact on the grid was minimal. Now, as small-scale solar becomes a dominant energy source, it is pushing minimum grid demand to critically low levels during certain periods.

Alex Wonhas, CEO of AMPYR and a former Australian Energy Market Operator executive, explained to ABC News that minimum demand issues typically arise midday on weekends, when solar output is high but overall demand is low. He highlighted two main solutions: increasing demand during these periods or curtailing solar and other energy outputs.

Advances in inverter technology could enable solar systems to contribute to grid stability services, offering a partial solution. Wonhas also expressed optimism about the role of batteries in addressing the minimum demand challenge, as they can absorb and later discharge excess solar energy.

However, he acknowledged that storing all surplus solar power would not be economically viable. This creates a need for trade-offs between costs and capturing every bit of solar output. Establishing sufficient energy storage infrastructure is expensive, particularly when much of the excess power is not immediately required.

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The policy in place where I live, is that if I get solar (or whatever) installed on my home and connected to the grid, it is not to exceed 10% of my estimated annual usage. My assumption is because of that concern of overloading the grid. However, barely anyone here has solar.
 
The policy in place where I live, is that if I get solar (or whatever) installed on my home and connected to the grid, it is not to exceed 10% of my estimated annual usage. My assumption is because of that concern of overloading the grid. However, barely anyone here has solar.
Yeah, here in CT in the USA, they did limit how big of a system you can get but allowed for oversized systems if you planned on getting an EV or some other project that would consume lots of electricity. We plan on having heatpumps installed so they allowed us to size slightly more than we needed.
 
Random thoughts: Do they have variable costs on electricity in Oz? Maybe household devices (and industrial for that matter) could switch on when electricity prices go below a certain threshold as this might balance usage. Doing this to charge EV's either at home or public would be great. Having air conditioners provide more cooling when the sun is shining seem an obvious solution. Can they increase the amount of grid scale batteries by offering tax breaks to suppliers etc?
 
Reality starts to kick in. It's easy to hoard all that solar production, as long as you can dump it onto your neighbors when you overproduce. But Austria isn't quite like that, for understandable reasons.

But they foreshadow the problem everyone's eventually going to face, as these "neighbors" start to saturate their own grids with their own solar plants, so this "someone else's problem" attitude ain't gonna cut it anymore.

Then we can finally see battery plants gaining traction, which is an absolute must for solar, wind, or ANY renewable production, but we preferred to ignore it, especially when we planned for costs and ROI.
 
Interesting. I like to watch some of the Australian shows like the Opal and Gold miners. They rely on Solar for about 50% of what they do, because they lack storage for the power (that's the expensive part). I see a lot of gas Generators.
 
So, Power-to-X never took off, because it is financially unviable and government funding is insufficient, and industries are not transitioning.

And because of this, peak renewable energy production is now a legitimate problem and we can't use the energy in the quantity that it is produced at peak times, and it cannot be stored either.

Seems like a problem that could have been avoided.
 
So, Power-to-X never took off, because it is financially unviable and government funding is insufficient, and industries are not transitioning.

And because of this, peak renewable energy production is now a legitimate problem and we can't use the energy in the quantity that it is produced at peak times, and it cannot be stored either.

Seems like a problem that could have been avoided.
Centralised gen has oversupplied the grid for YEARS. It just burns the excess power off on the transmission lines etc.

Solar is at household level so it doesn't have the luxury as voltage increase at lower levels destabilises.

So yes there has always been oversupply. The grid topology is changing. Nobody wants to subsidise expensive central gen. We need distributed storage and grid that can handle reverse power flow. The tech is here. The politicians need to stop sabotaging action and let engineers fix the problem for once.

Democracy on engineering a power grid by pop vote is extremely stupid and led us here. The average punter is not educated on how to solve this.
 
Ah unintended consequences. Part of what makes solar cost effective is being able to sell the extra power off during peak generation. But if everyone is trying to go green then everyone has the same problem of too much peak power and no one wants to buy it.

Market forces would have avoided this but government knew better and subsidized solar. Oops.
 
This is down to total incompetence by both Federal and State governments of Australia and all the energy providers. Solar has been around for nearly 20 years in Australia and they have spent hundreds of billions on gold-plating poles and wires and the grid has not evolved one iota to cope with this new form of energy. The grid is still largely one way. We should be building medium scale batteries for suburbs that can store the excess energy and sell it back in peak times at far lower prices than the energy providers normally charge. Home batteries are still stupendously overpriced, not enough people have EV's or heatpumps. Thousands of ~1MWh batteries should already be in place right across the country.
 
Build batteries or sell it. Problem solved.
Did you read the article at all? Who are they going to sell it to? All the other states that are also overproducing due to the abundance of sunlight and mild temps also don't need the power they produce.

How much would it cost to store all the excess power being produced? Any idea?
 
I would love to go totally "off grid" with a large enough solar array but solar panels are way too expensive here and we live too far north to achieve the output the Australians can achieve. I would have a bank of storage batteries calculated to be just adequate to support our needs when it is dark or very cloudy. Any excess power beyond that could be adjusted down easily by using a simple roller shutter to limit the amount of sunlight reaching the panels.

Or is that a really dumb idea?
 
Random thoughts: Do they have variable costs on electricity in Oz? Maybe household devices (and industrial for that matter) could switch on when electricity prices go below a certain threshold as this might balance usage. Doing this to charge EV's either at home or public would be great. Having air conditioners provide more cooling when the sun is shining seem an obvious solution. Can they increase the amount of grid scale batteries by offering tax breaks to suppliers etc?
Yeah, we have Time Of Use charges for electricity here in Australia, although not everyone is on this type of plan from their electricity provider.

EV uptake and the introduction of V2H/V2G should help alleviate some of the excess. There's currently changes to the electrical standards underway to allow the bi-directional chargers required for this to be more easily certified for use. I've be waiting for this rather than buying a separate battery for the house.

There are/were State based incentives in place to subsidise home battery purchases. Unfortunately in South Australia (my home state) they decided to end this due to the lack of uptake by the public. There are still millions of dollars of funding put aside for this, so I hope they open up the subsidies again.
 
Batteries aren't cost effective and they can't sell it because no one needs it. You didn't solve the problem you described it (poorly).
This is categorically false. You are assuming you are trying to run a grid that drops to zero supply for a period of time. THAT is not the problem batteries do an incredibly effective job of which is chopping peaks off peak demand and load shifting excess supply for incredible economics.

The independent market operator and several large scale battery projects have proven this on STATE level generation.

Once again average punters don't have a CLUE what designing a country or state level grid is like and the challenges it has in reality.
 
I would love to go totally "off grid" with a large enough solar array but solar panels are way too expensive here and we live too far north to achieve the output the Australians can achieve. I would have a bank of storage batteries calculated to be just adequate to support our needs when it is dark or very cloudy. Any excess power beyond that could be adjusted down easily by using a simple roller shutter to limit the amount of sunlight reaching the panels.

Or is that a really dumb idea?
Offgrid is definitely more expensive than most people would bother with. At the moment anyway.

You can easily just turn panels off which is what the regulator is looking at doing. They are just electrical circuits. This is a short term fix aimed at stabilising the grid. The worst case scenario is bringing the state-wide grid down. A "black start" traditionally takes close to a week to bring the coal generators back up for example.

Ideally though, the grid is fixed for reverse power flow and lots of distributed storage is added. Vehicle to grid is an absolutely MASSIVE opportunity to add this distributed storage as car batteries are >5x normal household batteries and the vast majority of the car fleet does not need their full range or remotely close to full range on their daily commute. They can easily supply peak and then charge at home or work when generation is high but usage is lower.
 
This is down to total incompetence by both Federal and State governments of Australia and all the energy providers. Solar has been around for nearly 20 years in Australia and they have spent hundreds of billions on gold-plating poles and wires and the grid has not evolved one iota to cope with this new form of energy. The grid is still largely one way. We should be building medium scale batteries for suburbs that can store the excess energy and sell it back in peak times at far lower prices than the energy providers normally charge. Home batteries are still stupendously overpriced, not enough people have EV's or heatpumps. Thousands of ~1MWh batteries should already be in place right across the country.
The energy providers don't have the mandate to do this. Unfortunately the Governments have caused this problem. Federal and State politicians literally ring up the energy providers and threaten them (veto) their action in these regards.

In NSW Australia, the gold plating is due to politicians and energy executives being terrified of grid supply risk and using extremely conservative (but absolutely terrible) traditional forecasting. Nobody wants to be pointed at when there are issues with changing this design or tech.

Imagine how the country has added something like air conditioning. The infrastructure is designed to last 30 years. They have to use extremely conservative forecasting to predict the country's usage of air con in 30 years time - because of the politics of trying something different. Imagine how much overbuild they did for this? Insane.

But as you say they have left the topology completely inappropriate for modern generation. The central gen is falling apart from age. The private operators have run these plants into the ground. Smaller states are proving what modern gen can do for economics and politicians are slowly being dragged into the modern gen world.
 
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