NZXT CEO admits "we messed up" but stops short of apologizing after scathing Gamers Nexus exposé

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What just happened? NZXT founder and CEO Johnny Hou has posted a response to the damning Gamers Nexus video that accused the company of running a "predatory, evil" scam with its Flex subscription-based service for desktop PCs. Don't expect to hear an apology, though.

Hou admits in the six-minute video (above) that NZXT "messed up" with some aspects of the Flex service.

One of the first things Hou talks about is the controversial way that NZXT offers PCs for sale and to rent with the same name but slightly different specs. The Player: Three PC, for example, was highlighted by Gamers Nexus for coming with an Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super graphics card when bought outright, but the subscription version used an RTX 4070 Ti non-Super model. Moreover, the FPS gaming benchmarks for both PCs were the same, which is inaccurate.

Going forward, the "Player" PC naming is being moved out of the Flex subscription so users will no longer be "confused."

Hou also acknowledged that there were ad campaigns from influencers who talked about how the Flex service allowed people to "own" a PC, even though this isn't true. NZXT has pulled all influencer-led Flex advertising and instituted what it calls a more robust creative review process.

Hou does defend NZXT's Flex program, saying some of what Gamers Nexus covered were "misconceptions." He says the only time NZXT has charged a customer more for a subscription is when a state requires it to start charging state taxes, and even in those situations, it gives the customers early notice of the change so they can cancel if they wish.

Hou said the constant changes to the Flex program's hardware specs was another misconception. He blames this on supplies of the parts becoming tighter at certain times of the year.

Privacy concerns were something else that Gamers Nexus mentioned in its video. Hou said NZXT is not in the business of selling people's data and that it will be updating its rerms and conditions to make this clear. He added that every Flex PC that is returned from a customer is fully wiped.

Hou says NZXT still has "a lot of learning to do," and that it can use the situation as a way to "grow as a company."

While the CEO talks about accountability and mistakes and messing up, at no point does Hou apologize or address the high prices of the Flex program – one of the main issues brought up by Gamers Nexus. The fact that there are more than 50 jump cuts in the clip and its short length has not gone unnoticed by commenters, either.

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Has notions of a massive rug sweep and being aware that they got caught rather than "damn, we actually screwed up", the idea is predatory and financially stupid in the first place, but the execution and extremely sloppy, deceitful and anti consumer way it is being executed in as well is awful
 
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Has notions of a massive rug sweep and being aware that they got caught rather than "damn, we actually screwed up", the idea is predatory and financially stupid in the first place, but the execution and extremely sloppy, deceitful and anti consumer way it is being executed in as well is awful
they know exactly what they were doing, going after suckers, pretty much every company does it, and considering gamers can be very dense, theyre almost the perfect victims, lucky for them GN gives a s*** and sounded the horn.

which is wild right? the same person who watches ****in gamers nexus, which pretty much drowns you with information also buys a pc in the legit worse deal possible?

someone should also call out the people who fall for this stuff, either angrily or with education, I mean this is just a terrible, horrible deal, how tf do you go with that?! NZXT is obviously wrong for doing it, but dammit they saw a chance and took it, people need to be educated so that chance disappears, not just with tech either, but everything.
 
I'm am quite surprised NZXT left the comments open on the video. Then again, maybe they left them open, since they would be up the creek if they disabled comments. The comments are roasting the terrible video. Just the amount of jump cuts alone is ridiculous.
 
The intention of the company is very obvious to be honest. It is not a matter of messing up. There were clear signs that the company made efforts to scam their customers. Those affected should be refunded, not just a simple apology.
 
Nobody needs you to "admit" anything, tiny little nerd.
We all saw the evidence (scanned quickly because of the GN habit of taking over an hour to make a point or 2) and we know what you were doing.
 
I personally don't feel it's a mistake to offer options. Even if they are options that no one will ever use or seem unappealing to everybody it's just an option and the more options people have the better off they are. No one has to take this option if they don't want to but it's there if it fits into someone's agenda perfectly. There are very few use cases for it but it doesn't have to be a one size fits all solution in order to be a viable option.
 
So less knowledge is preferable?
For me? Yes. I have a great life, and I want everything tech has to offer me.
But I'm an Architect, and tech is a tool and, for me, not worthy of being a field of study.
I am all in if it works. And if it doesn't (which way too common), I can get something that does.
It may surprise you, but many people love cars, but don't care how they work.
My middle daughter is an exceptional painter, but she doesn't give a damn how paint is made.
 
People seem to forget that renting is always the worst idea if you plan to be a long-term user for product or service. Just as an example you can rent an Nvidia 4090 GPU for an average of $0.50 per day, you can find better deals or worse deals but this seems to be about an average. That comes to $4,380.00 per year rental fee or you could buy two brand new cards for the same price and at the end of the year have two cards that you could resell. It comes to $8760.00 If you want to use it for 2 years.
This has been the case for quite some time so where's the outrage? Gamer's Nexus is rather hypocritical calling other people out on their business practices while at the same time selling cheap junk in their videos directly.
 
This has been the case for quite some time so where's the outrage? Gamer's Nexus is rather hypocritical calling other people out on their business practices while at the same time selling cheap junk in their videos directly.
It doesn't look like the rental thing is a big deal to folks. Except the price.
What really pisses people off is switching out the specs from what they originally ordered and
showing false benchmarks.

Oh, and a Guru should know that 50 cents a day is $182.50 per year. Not $4,380.

Just as an example you can rent an Nvidia 4090 GPU for an average of $0.50 per day, you can find better deals or worse deals but this seems to be about an average. That comes to $4,380.00 per year rental fee
 
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