Romania's election results annulled after systems saw over 85,000 cyberattacks

The Talking Tech said:
When that USA citizen is bribing others with money to register and vote for the party he is supporting then that's indeed election interference....that's indeed what Elon Musk did.
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You mean this? It doesn’t sound anything like what you say: https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/04/politics/elon-musk-1-million-giveaway/index.html

I think you need to look up what election interference is anyways. In the US, the only “interference” is by foreign entities. Otherwise the word you’re looking for is probably something else.
 
The Talking Tech said:
One thing is a seeing people cheat in sports or any sort of entertainment, but when your wellbeing and your family's depends on whoever wins in a political race, the word cheating shouldn't even be mentioned neverless letting it happen.
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Hey, I never said it was good to cheat… it’s called human nature.
There will always be people trying to cheat the system - regardless of what the system is. When you add in the HUGE rewards for cheating - whether it’s millions of dollars or simply executive power - it draws those inclined to cheat into the system.
 
Squid Surprise said:
Apparently, you are vastly overestimating the intelligence of the average person… think of an average person, then think about how dumb they seem… now, realize that half the world is EVEN DUMBER!
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Definitely. Even the article states something stupid that no longer exists. Democracy. You don't get to vote for anything of real value. Cue up the douchebag and turd sandwich south park episode.
Usually its a two horse race.
In the UK its conservative vs labour, the US has the Star wars republicans vs the bizarrely named democrats.
Both parties shmooz rich plebs whose only needs is to stay rich and out of the papers for all their illegal hobby's.
They give you lies of things they say they will do for you if they win.
They do zero of these.
They just make themselves richer and the poor poorer.

Slaves to a system, slave to jobs that our outdated, systems which infrastructures and cities towns are outdated overpopulated and yet their answers is higher taxes, poorer people, and more of them poor people types to tax and feed with diminishing resources. And spending the extra tax on themselves and pay rises they don't deserve. Losing millions in corruption infested budgets.

And the real irony of the article is that, cyberattacks changed nothing of an election that wouldn't have changed anything anyway.


 
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Squid Surprise said:
When an election result is overturned due to cyberattacks, it’s definitely news - especially on a tech site! That the average person is a m0r0n is NOT news should be a given… but the cyberattack part screams “tech”.
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Yeah but the thing is when it's politics you never know the real truth, so anything political is a waste of time! Improve your life guys, work on yourselves always and **** politics!
 
Dimitrios said:
This was from today. You keep bashing Orange man, but why is it all the cheating and lying comes from the other side. Weird.
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The cheating comes from all sides - always has.
user478318 said:
Yeah but the thing is when it's politics you never know the real truth, so anything political is a waste of time! Improve your life guys, work on yourselves always and **** politics!
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You never know the whole truth with regular tech news either… do you really think that Gelsinger “retired” from Intel?
 
Cue bot farms and disinformation doesn't work
Cue trillion dollar advertising campaigns by companies do not work on me.

Well they do, probably would not work as well for informed and educated people

Most people take in the world by clips and things that affect them.

Just about no politician has ever won in last 60 years before all this appealing to reason and intellect

eg Prisons do not work as they think, institutionalising young men will not make a safer society
Much better we are tough on crime, I will lock them up and throw away the key . Looky here I just signed some death warrants for guys who can't read and write with IQs in bottom 1% and just happened to be there with their "friends"

Appeal to peoples emotions, keep it simple - where's the beef
Only have 2 or 3 talking points at most law and order and economy - as average voter is dumb/human and can't handle any more

Anyway The USA has interfered with 100s of elections, propped out Dictators and aided in killing in opposition leaders ( oh no can't be true )
Foreign policy is solely economic domination/exploitation for many decades for USA
Also power blocks and Allies - PRC/Russia and USA
 
takaozo said:
It's a full circus down here in Romania, the society was divided by a guy that has half paranoia and half schizophrenia. He is the reason that RU got involved. He declared his love for russian culture and Putin leadership.
More or less it's the same situation that you had there in US with the new president.
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Yea and its funny how this all happened over a night... Suddenly Romania has its own Orban lol. Its like someone type a cheat code into the console. Orban 101 and boom!
 
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Europe is slowly leaning to the right. The stranglehold of woke left is dying just like in the US. They don't like that. With no evidence other than "concerns of Russian interference" they blocked the basic right of Romanians to vote, because the so called "Russian" candidate would have taken over 70%. Until the first round of elections, they had no proof. But suddenly they have plenty, but not really for any indictment. Over 2 million Romanians voted for this guy, mostly abroad. Do you think they want to cut ties with Europe or US? Are Romanians stupid? So says the other half of Romania, just like in the US, with Trump. But the tides are changing and it's unstoppable. And when you take away the right to vote then it's more of a totalitarian state than Russia. Because let me be clear, there was no interference in the actual voting, the only thing they cling on to is people were manipulated online. Oh, really? That's true for all candidates. The bigger problem is this guy was going to cut any war assistance to Ukraine, that's why they are trying to stop him at any cost. But Trump will take office soon and hopefully all of this will be sorted out.
 
Jeff Murray said:
Until the Eastern EU states break the Bolsheviks' stranglehold, they will continue to suffer. The last thing the Bolsheviks will allow is the loss of control over Romania. Look what they are doing to Hungary. I'm surprised they haven't started calling the Romanians RW Nazis since Romania wants to leave the EU and drop the euro. Poland, Hungary, Yugoslavia, etc. have been under the thumb of the Bolsheviks for so long-Poland for 800+ years.
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"Romania wants to leave the EU and drop the euro" - as a romanian I can confidently tell you that you are wrong.
 
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Europe is slowly leaning to the right. The stranglehold of woke left is dying just like in the US. They don't like that. With no evidence other than "concerns of Russian interference" they blocked the basic right of Romanians to vote, because the so called "Russian" candidate would have taken over 70%. Until the first round of elections, they had no proof. But suddenly they have plenty, but not really for any indictment. Over 2 million Romanians voted for this guy, mostly abroad. Do you think they want to cut ties with Europe or US? Are Romanians stupid? So says the other half of Romania, just like in the US, with Trump. But the tides are changing and it's unstoppable. And when you take away the right to vote then it's more of a totalitarian state than Russia. Because let me be clear, there was no interference in the actual voting, the only thing they cling on to is people were manipulated online. Oh, really? That's true for all candidates. The bigger problem is this guy was going to cut any war assistance to Ukraine, that's why they are trying to stop him at any cost. But Trump will take office soon and hopefully all of this will be sorted out.
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"With no evidence" - evidence exists and it was used to restart the elections. soon, the pro-russian candidate will be arrested (his goons have already been picked up).

Romania dodged a bullet this time. thankfully, even if late, we successfully dodged it.
 
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Puiu said:
"With no evidence" - evidence exists and it was used to restart the elections. soon, the pro-russian candidate will be arrested (his goons have already been picked up).

Romania dodged a bullet this time. thankfully, even if late, we successfully dodged it.
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I agree, he should be arrested if that were the case, however you don't work for National security, you have no idea just like the rest of us, but you are convinced already. Let's see the evidence, none exists but allegations. Of course the Russians would support a candidate that no longer helps Ukraine, that doesn't mean he is a Russian agent. Or maybe 2 million people are Russian agents? What if it isn't true and it turns out it's a power grab, have you considered that? Let's be patient and see before we spew hatred among us. Btw, "his goons" turns out they don't even personally know him, but they are seen in pictures along the ruling party officials.
 
emmzo said:
I agree, he should be arrested if that were the case, however you don't work for National security, you have no idea just like the rest of us, but you are convinced already. Let's see the evidence, none exists but allegations. Of course the Russians would support a candidate that no longer helps Ukraine, that doesn't mean he is a Russian agent. Or maybe 2 million people are Russian agents? What if it isn't true and it turns out it's a power grab, have you considered that? Let's be patient and see before we spew hatred among us. Btw, "his goons" turns out they don't even personally know him, but they are seen in pictures along the ruling party officials.
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"Let's see the evidence, none exists but allegations." - said everybody who hasn't read the declassified files released to the public.

It's over for CG. His sponsors are already under custody, his "mercenary army" was arrested, influencers ran or tattled and CG is being going to charged very soon. This is a fact and that dirty russian traitor deserves it.

Anyone who doesn't believe that he's a russophile has serious cognitive issues. Enjoy:
 

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Puiu said:
"Let's see the evidence, none exists but allegations." - said everybody who hasn't read the desecritised files. It's over for CG. His sponsors are already under custody, influencers ran or tattled and CG is being going to charged very soon. This is a fact and that dirty russian traitor deserves it.

Anyone who doesn't believe that he's a rusofile has serious cognitive issues.
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More than half the country it's rusofiles. Ok. Got it! Sorry you feel that way and surely insulting and belittling people opinions will make them see it your way!
 
emmzo said:
More than half the country it's rusofiles. Ok. Got it! Sorry you feel that way and surely insulting and belittling people opinions will make them see it your way!
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"More than half the country it's rusofiles" - no, that's factually false. most people who voted for CG didn't even know who he is. they just saw a mass spam of fake messages online with him being "the saviour from the corrupt west" or messages from the church with extremist religious views and thought that he would be the guy that "can change things".

very few people actually have the education to understand that the proposed law by him where the state must own 51% the foreign companies is not just insane, but it would destroy the nation's economy beyond repair and would lead us back to the 80s, in communism.

I don't care if you feel like I insulted these people, but that's simply the truth. the uneducated always vote slogans and don't use proper logic. he's objectively a traitor who sold the country to russia.

do you agree with his views on women and how their "role" is to have children and can't become presidents? just a simple yes or no.

I will continue to belittle such people. ignorance is not an excuse. if you can open tik-tok then you can do a google search and learn about who he is.
 
Squid Surprise said:
And many remember the “paradise” of living behind the iron curtain…
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You misunderstand completely what is this about. Most people if not all, want EU and NATO, they just don't want to go to war for Ukraine. Same with people all over Europe or US. Is that making us rusofiles? Most people love the West, but not the woke ideas. Does that make us comunists? It's the same in Europe and US. We thought we are free to choose in an election, but now they have suppressed our right to vote, because "they know better", nine Supreme Court judges, who are named politically. Surely, if a manciurian candidate presents himself, you stop him before the election, not when he is about to win. Even so, the guy that half of Romania hates is not even indicted. Except for one, all TV stations are foaming at the mouth that they will soon catch him, yet nothing happens. It's a complete paranoia and as you have seen from comments of my fellow Romanians, insults swirl in all directions and nobody cares to listen different arguments. Seeing things black and white it's so limited and certainly not the platform, here on Techspot, to discuss the complexity and severe problems of the Romanian society, but one thing you can be sure of: NOBODY wants to go back to Russia.
 
emmzo said:
You misunderstand completely what is this about. Most people if not all, want EU and NATO, they just don't want to go to war for Ukraine. Same with people all over Europe or US. Is that making us rusofiles? Most people love the West, but not the woke ideas. Does that make us comunists? It's the same in Europe and US. We thought we are free to choose in an election, but now they have suppressed our right to vote, because "they know better", nine Supreme Court judges, who are named politically. Surely, if a manciurian candidate presents himself, you stop him before the election, not when he is about to win. Even so, the guy that half of Romania hates is not even indicted. Except for one, all TV stations are foaming at the mouth that they will soon catch him, yet nothing happens. It's a complete paranoia and as you have seen from comments of my fellow Romanians, insults swirl in all directions and nobody cares to listen different arguments. Seeing things black and white it's so limited and certainly not the platform, here on Techspot, to discuss the complexity and severe problems of the Romanian society, but one thing you can be sure of: NOBODY wants to go back to Russia.
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"they just don't want to go to war for Ukraine" - and here it is. fake propaganda for the masses that think Romania will go to war with Russia. the only way that happens is if russia invades our brothers in Moldova or attacks a NATO ally. how can you not understand something this BASIC???

"Does that make us comunists?" - if you agree with his proposed laws then yes. the nationalisation of foreign companies is a page taken from the communist's bible.

"We thought we are free to choose in an election" - you are, as long as the constitution is respected. without a constitution we don't have a democracy.

"yet nothing happens" - except the many arrests and high profile investigations that just started. I don't think you understand how the justice process works in romania.

"Seeing things black and white" - when presented with indisputable proof, you want to be in the grey camp? is that the "russian wisdom" CG praised a while ago?

"NOBODY wants to go back to Russia" - except those that got paid or paid others and are now in deep sh*t with the law.
 
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emmzo said:
You misunderstand completely what is this about. Most people if not all, want EU and NATO, they just don't want to go to war for Ukraine. Same with people all over Europe or US. Is that making us rusofiles? Most people love the West, but not the woke ideas. Does that make us comunists? It's the same in Europe and US. We thought we are free to choose in an election, but now they have suppressed our right to vote, because "they know better", nine Supreme Court judges, who are named politically. Surely, if a manciurian candidate presents himself, you stop him before the election, not when he is about to win. Even so, the guy that half of Romania hates is not even indicted. Except for one, all TV stations are foaming at the mouth that they will soon catch him, yet nothing happens. It's a complete paranoia and as you have seen from comments of my fellow Romanians, insults swirl in all directions and nobody cares to listen different arguments. Seeing things black and white it's so limited and certainly not the platform, here on Techspot, to discuss the complexity and severe problems of the Romanian society, but one thing you can be sure of: NOBODY wants to go back to Russia.
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Explain this and tell me how he's not pro-russia:

 

Puiu said:
"they just don't want to go to war for Ukraine" - and here it is. fake propaganda for the masses that think Romania will go to war with Russia.

"Does that make us comunists?" - if you agree with his proposed laws then yes. the nationalisation of foreign companies is a page taken from the communist.
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I don't see how he could do that, if the parliament is comprised of a majority of so called pro EU parties and they are the legislature. And frankly, I don't get that idea either, but maybe he meant something like Orban did in Hungary, nationalizing Romania' s resources and that is not comunism, the National Liberal Party did the same in the 1920s.
About the war, well, as long as we are providing Ukraine with weapons, we are taking a part in the war. And I agree with that, but not to send troops there, even if Ukraine falls. NATO is a defense alliance, Ukraine is not part of it.
 
emmzo said:
I don't see how he could do that, if the parliament is comprised of a majority of so called pro EU parties and they are the legislature. And frankly, I don't get that idea either, but maybe he meant something like Orban did in Hungary, nationalizing Romania' s resources and that is not comunism, the National Liberal Party did the same in the 1920s.
About the war, well, as long as we are providing Ukraine with weapons, we are taking a part in the war. And I agree with that, but not to send troops there, even if Ukraine falls. NATO is a defense alliance, Ukraine is not part of it.
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"I don't see how he could do that" - So, let me get this straight, you are voting for him because you think he can't implement his stupid ideas?

"maybe he meant something like Orban did in Hungary" - seriously... why are you doing this dude? instead of "maybe" could you not just do a simple search? it's a live interview.

"Statul român sau orice fel de antreprenor român trebuie să aibă minim 51% în orice fel de acțiune bilaterală. 51% este foarte important pentru că asta înseamnă că tu deții controlul, nu îl dețin străinii." CG

"as long as we are providing Ukraine with weapons, we are taking a part in the war." - if we didn't do it, moldova would have been the next step. do you think that transnistria would not have joined russia fully immediately if they shared a border and that russia would have let moldova vote to join the EU? like it or not, russia is waging war and we have to defend ourselves.

mai omule... iti este greu sa asculti ce spune CG? este o intrebare serioasa. tu cum il votezi? ca a spus el ca ne salveaza? hai sa nu mai ne coim atata, citeste ce a spus, vezi cine ii da banii, citeste documentele descritizate, vezi ce se intampla cu oamenii din jurul lui acum.
 
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Puiu said:
Explain this and tell me how he's not pro-russia:

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Trump said Putin is a genius when he invaded Ukraine. Is he a Russian agent? I don't know exactly what he meant when he said we have to learn from Russian wisdom, but I don't belittle Russian people to make the assumption it's something bad and then he was right about a majority of ethnic Russians living in Dombas. He said some stupid things, but also extremely important ones for us Romanians, no politician ever said before. Is he a liar? Maybe or maybe not. I'm not here to defend this guy, but unless proven in court, innuendos and tangent allegations only bring paranoia.
 
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